It’s After the Election, Should We Let Sleeping Dogs Lie?

It’s After the Election, Should We Let Sleeping Dogs Lie?

(No – Not As Long As Fundamental Questions Remain)

First let me say that I was disappointed with the result of our Presidential Election. Not totally, it was good to see that Sen. Obama’s race did not play a significant part in the outcome. I’m old enough to have seen firsthand the truly ugly times in our race relations and I’m glad they are gone. However, the historic significance of this Election did not play a significant part in how I determined where to cast my vote. It was decision about the issues, character, intelligence, ideology and vision for our future. Frankly, I’m still shocked that so many have appeared to disregard all of these for the illusory concept of “Change”, the Messiah image and the fact of the Senator’s race.

Naturally, many Americans have been reflecting on the outcome and their next step(s) regarding the newly chosen President Elect. Some have shrugged and changed the channel on the TV. Some have decided to give the President Elect a honeymoon and then judge him on his actions. Some people have not made any decisions yet. Others have decided that there remain way too many troubling associations, past actions, ideologies and positions that have not been responsibly reported on, investigated and/or adequately understood by the voting public. There are also many people who are waiting on the outcomes of numerous lawsuits involving the fundamental question of whether Sen. Obama is in fact eligible, by law, under the Constitution to hold the Office of the Presidency. Where do I stand? For me, it is now and will always be a question of fundamentals.

While I do remain deeply troubled by the media’s fawning and intentional malicious intervention in this election outcome, it is what it is. Polls showed that most voters recognized the media bias intellectually; however, the misinformation also appears to have been effective. It is what it is; and I do believe, people who were truly interested in finding reasonably reliable information about Sen. Obama could find sufficient amounts to make a somewhat informed decision about him. For those who have been suffering under BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome), no amount of information would have had any effect whatsoever. Again, it is what it is.

Nevertheless, I still believe that Sen. Obama does not have a fundamental understanding of economic principles and will dig us much deeper into financial calamity. When you are up to your neck in trouble, stop digging. Raising taxes on those who create jobs will only negatively impact the number of jobs created. Raising taxes on businesses will only result in that increased cost being pasted on to consumers, or may be so damaging to the competitiveness of the company that they go out of business. During the election, I didn’t hear very much from Sen. Obama about the reducing spending (or spending growth), side of the balanced budget equation. I did hear about his redistribution of wealth ideas and bankrupting the coal industry; which sound a lot like socialism and draconian energy policies that our economy cannot withstand. Responsible management of our economy is a fundamental; and affordable energy is essential to that in times of recession or worse. Therefore, President Elect Obama will not be getting a honeymoon from me.

On to the challenges to Sen. Obama’s eligibility to hold the Office of the Presidency; what can be more fundamental than that?

Important principles may, and must, be inflexible.
Abraham Lincoln

Philip Berg, in the lawsuit Berg v. Obama, is saying that the location and circumstances of Sen. Obama’s birth, his subsequent adoption under Indonesian law, and other circumstances regarding possible multiple citizenships have resulted in Sen. Obama being Constitutionally barred from holding the Office of the Presidency. Right now, the Berg v. Obama case is seeking certiorari review in the Supreme Court of the United States.

As of yet, there has been no legal determination that Sen. Obama is or is not eligible under the Constitution. The allegations in Berg v. Obama, and the other concurrent legal actions, have not been addressed by Sen. Obama at all. He has chosen to follow a course of legal maneuvers, seeking dismissal, instead of simply submitting sufficient evidence establishing his eligibility to serve. Why?

Why not just put this issue to bed? Sen. Obama can at any time. It seems that Mr. Berg has a recording of Sen. Obama’s grandmother indicating that she was present at Obama’s birth in Kenya. Why doesn’t he confront Mr. Berg? Isn’t Sen. Obama’s credibility also at stake by these claims? There are rumors of hospital records indicating his birth in Kenya. There are new allegations of his Kenyan birth coming out of Africa. No explanation from Obama?

The fact is that no one really knows what or how much evidence Philip Berg has to support his claims against Sen. Obama, or if such evidence is legally sufficient. However, the allegations raised, if true, would bar Sen. Obama from taking office.

Senator Obama’s side-stepping every obstacle from Rev. Wright to Ayers to ACORN to now questions of his own birth does not work for me. He can’t be allowed to vote present on this one. Fundamental issues such as Sen. Obama’s eligibility to be or not to be President, they must be addressed or they will tear the fabric of our democracy. They can’t be compromised away by elections, the media, aversion to potential consequences, or by popular opinion.

To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don’t be.
Golda Meir

Earlier tonight I walked through our bedroom and my dog Eli was on the bed. The thought came to mind that I should let sleeping dogs lie. With regard to Eli, I did let him lie because he has our permission to sleep on the bed. Eli is well groomed and doesn’t hurt our bed in the least. Our two cats don’t mind him very much because he follows the rules. Can the same be said about Sen. Obama?

Will the possibility of an illegitimate President hurt our Constitution? Would such an action hurt our belief that no one is above the law? Would you mind having such a President?

Will you stand for this possibility?

Don’t compromise yourself. You are all you’ve got.
Janis Joplin

I can’t compromise on this one.

Note: There are also stories that some Electors from the Electoral College are planning to demand proof of Sen. Obama’s eligibility.

For more information regarding the continuing legal struggles to have Sen. Obama’s eligibility established once and for all see the following sites:

America’sRight CitizenWells ObamaCrimes Andy Martin

TexasDarlin ZachJonesIsHome Larry Sinclair

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
George Washington

Thank You, Zach

3 Responses to “It’s After the Election, Should We Let Sleeping Dogs Lie?”

  1. christinewjc Says:

    HI Zach,

    Good post. Prior to the results of the election, I was gravely worried that such a rabid, left-wing liberal like Obama would win. However, I was also worried about what would have happened if he lost. I think that there would have been bloodbaths in blue state cities throughout America – and I’m not joking about this.

    Yesterday, I did a post (that includes some speculation) about why officials who claim to have seen Obama’s birth document end up dismissing lawsuits and then sealing it from public inspection. My question is the same as yours – why is the American public not being allowed to see Obama’s vault long COLB?

    We have the leader of the public health dept. in Hawaii confirming that there is a BC on file there. Yet, it will not be released to the public.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when Justice Souter’s request for evidence of the COLB is presented. If he is sufficiently satisfied with it, that’s the end of the story (IMO). If he agrees to allow it to be sealed, then we will never get the proof we need, as ordinary citizens, of Obama’s natural born citizen status.

    There is speculation across the Internet that Obama’s real father may have been Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X. Perhaps the secrecy surrounding Obama’s COLB is being done to avoid embarrassment? I do find it hard to believe that anyone would go to such lengths for such a reason. If true, would it have mattered during the election? I don’t know.

    Whatever is being hidden from the public about the man chills me to the bone. What Obama campaigned on and the radicals that have surrounded him and influenced him chills me to the bone. His horribly radical abortion stance chills me to the bone. I could go on and on.

    What chills me to the bone the most is the fact that so many people could ignore Obama’s crimes and radicalism – and vote for him. It seems to me that even if absolute evidence was found that Obama was not Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS, those people wouldn’t care anyway.

    I will be praying diligently for the next great conservative to arise from the ash-heep of this bought, and illegally paid for election. The scandals surrounding the Obama campaign make Nixon’s Watergate scandal pale in comparison.

  2. zachjonesishome Says:

    I’m waiting for the next great conservative also. Imagine if Sen. Stevens wins his election and then is forced to resign. What if Gov. Palin appoints Sarah Palin to the Senate? That be be a starting point. Zach

  3. jeanniejo Says:

    Good Evening, Zach –

    11/10 USATODAY full page ad re:BO’s citizenship – We the People

    An Open Letter to Barack Obama:

    Are You a Natural Born Citizen of the United States?

    Are you Legally Qualified to Hold the Office of the United States?

    Dear Mr. Obama:

    On October 24, 2008, a federal judge granted your request to dismiss a lawsuit by Citizen Philip Berg, who challenged your qualifications under the “Natural Born Citizen” clause of the U.S. Constitution to legally hold the office of President of the United States of America.

    Mr. Berg presented factual evidence to the Court in support of his claim that you are either a citizen of your father’s native Kenya by birth, or that you became a citizen of Indonesia, relinquishing your prior citizenship when you moved there with your mother in 1967.

    In your response to the lawsuit, you neither denied Mr. Berg’s claims nor submitted any evidence which would refute his assertions. Instead, you argued that the Court lacked the jurisdiction to determine the question of your legal eligibility because Mr. Berg lacked “standing.”

    Astonishingly, the judge agreed, simply saying, “[Mr. Berg] would have us derail the democratic process by invalidating a candidate for whom millions of people voted and underwent excessive vetting during what was one of the most hotly contested presidential primary [sic] in living memory.”

    Unfortunately, your response to the legal claim was clearly evasive and strikingly out of character, suggesting you may, in fact, lack a critical Constitutional qualification necessary to assume the Office of President: i.e., that you are not a “natural born” citizen of the United States or one who has relinquished his American citizenship.

    Before you can exercise any of the powers of the United States, you must prove that you have fully satisfied each and every eligibility requirement that the Constitution mandates for any individual’s exercise of those powers.

    Regardless of the tactics chosen in defending yourself against the Berg lawsuit, significant questions regarding your legal capacity to hold this nation’s highest office have been put forth publicly, and you have failed to directly refute them with documentary evidence that is routinely available to any bona fide, natural born U.S. Citizen.

    As one who has ventured into the fray of public service of his own volition, seeking to possess the vast powers of the Office of President, it is not unreasonable to demand that you produce evidence of your citizenship to answer the questions and allay the concerns of the People. Indeed, as the one seeking the office, you are under a moral, legal, and fiduciary duty to proffer such evidence to establish your qualifications as explicitly mandated by Article II of the Constitution.

    Should you proceed to assume the office of the President of the United States as anything but a bona fide natural born citizen of the United States that has not relinquished that citizenship, you would be inviting a national disaster, placing our Republic at great risk from untold consequences. For example:

    ·Neither the Electoral College on December 15, nor the House of Representatives on January 6 would be able to elect you, except as a poseur – a usurper;

    ·As a usurper, you would be unable to take the required “Oath or Affirmation” of office on January 20 without committing the crime of perjury or false swearing, for being ineligible for the Office of the President you cannot faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States;

    ·Your every act in the usurped Office of the President would be a criminal offense as an act under color of law that would subject the People to the deprivation of their constitutional rights, and entitling you to no obedience whatsoever from the People;

    ·as a usurper acting in the guise of the President you could not function as the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy and of the militia of the several states, as such forces would be under no legal obligation to remain obedient to you;

    ·No one in any civilian agency in the Executive Branch would be required to obey any of your proclamations, executive orders or directives, as such orders would be legally VOID;

    ·Your appointment of Ambassadors and Judges to the Supreme Court would be VOID ab initio (i.e., from the beginning), no matter what subsequent actions the Senate might take as well as rendering any such acts by such appointed officials void as well;

    ·Congress would not be able to pass any new laws because they would not be able to acquire the signature of a bona fide President, rendering all such legislation legally VOID;

    ·As a usurper, Congress would be unable to remove you from the Office of the President on Impeachment, inviting certain political chaos including a potential for armed conflicts within the General Government or among the States and the People to effect the removal of such a usurper.

    As an attorney and sitting U.S. Senator, I’m sure you agree that our Constitution is the cornerstone of our system of governance. It is the very foundation of our system of Law and Order – indeed, it is the supreme law of the land. I’m sure you also agree that its precise language was no accident and cannot be ignored if Individual, unalienable, natural Rights, Freedoms and Liberties are to be protected and preserved.

    As our next potential President, you have a high-order obligation to the Constitution (and to those who have fought and died for our Freedom) that extends far beyond that of securing a majority of the votes of the Electoral College. No matter your promises of change and prosperity, your heartfelt intent or the widespread support you have garnered in seeking the highest Office of the Land, the integrity of the Republic and Rule of Law cannot, — must not — be put at risk, by allowing a constitutionally unqualified person to sit, as a usurper, in the Office of the President.

    No matter the level of practical difficulty, embarrassment or disruption of the nation’s business, we must — above all — honor and protect the Constitution and the divine, unalienable, Individual Rights it guarantees, including the Right to a President who is a natural born citizen of the United States of America that has not relinquished his American citizenship. Our nation has endured similar disruptions in the past, and will weather this crisis as well. Indeed, it is both yours and the People’s mutual respect for, and commitment to, the Constitution and Rule of Law that insures the perpetuation of Liberty.

    As a long time defender of my state and federal Constitutions, and in consideration of the lack of sufficient evidence needed to establish your credentials as President, I am compelled to lodge this Petition for Redress of Grievances and public challenge to you.

    Make no mistake: This issue IS a Constitutional crisis. Although it will not be easy for you, your family or our Republic, you have it within your ability to halt this escalating crisis by either producing the certified documents establishing beyond question your qualifications to hold the Office of President, or by immediately withdrawing yourself from the Electoral College process.

    With due respect, I hereby request that you deliver the following documents to Mr. Berg and myself at the National Press Club in Washington, DC at noon on Monday, November 17, 2008:

    (a) a certified copy of your “vault” (original long version) birth certificate;
    (b) certified copies of all reissued and sealed birth certificates in the names
    Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham
    and Barry Dunham;
    (c) a certified copy of your Certification of Citizenship;
    (d) a certified copy of your Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of maturity;
    (e) certified copies of your admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia
    University and Harvard Law School; and
    (f) certified copies of any court orders or legal documents changing your name
    from Barry Soetoro.

    In the alternative, in defense of the Constitution, and in honor of the Republic and that for which it stands, please announce before such time your withdrawal from the 2008 Presidential election process.

    “In a government of laws, the existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy.”
    Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 469-471.

    Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter.


    Robert L. Schulz,
    Founder and Chairman, We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education, Inc

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